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A meeting of NALLOA was held via Zoom conference call on February 15, 2023 at 12:00 Noon. President Amy Holleman welcomed all to the meeting and asked for the role call of all present on the Zoom call. They were:
AMY HOLLEMAN–SOUTH CAROLINA
BARBARA SCHOEN–KENTUCKY
KELLI BLACK–ARKANSAS
SANDY EDMONDS–LOUISIANA
BARRY GORDON–CANADA
SUSAN SIGOURNEY–ILLINOIS
DONNA POTTER–OHIO
ELIZABETH MOULTON–MAINE
SHANE McCARRELL–TENNESSEE
KEITH WARREN–ALABAMA
DON COTTON–FLORIDA
LEE LESLIE–CALIFORNIA
DONNA McCLAIN–WEST VIRGINIA
GORDON GREENE–NORTH CAROLINA
DALE SCHATZKE–MASSACHUSETTS
MARK MERANTE–MASSACHUSETTS
LAURA SMITH–SOUTH CAROLINA
ROBERT HUNTER–TENNESSEE
ERIC LOVIN–SOUTH CAROLINA
JEREMY REED–ILLINOIS
JIMMY DEAN COFFEY–MISSOURI
ADRIANE LEVATINO–ILLINOIS
LOU GONZAGA–MASSACHUSETTS
President Holleman called for a motion to accept the minutes from the July 20, 2022 meeting. Barry Gordon made a motion to accept them as presented with Kelli Black seconding the motion. All voted in the affirmative. She then called for a motion to accept the 2022 year financial report of NALLOA. Kelli Black moved to accept them as presented and Donna Potter seconded the motion. All voted in favor.
At this point in the meeting President Holleman asked if there was any new information regarding internet auctions. Lou Gonzaga, President of MA Auctioneers Association spoke and said that he advised his state that he thought they should take a look at the other states that have regulations on internet laws and talk to them before doing anything else. He also said that they were looking at the auction board in MA to investigate revising some of the state auction laws. It is still a work in progress. Donna Potter, Ohio, said that HB321 went into effect on September 13, 2022, and now Ohio requires a license to conduct internet auctions of which there are two license options, auction firm or auction license. If there is any live bidding element to the auction they will need an auctioneer license. Auction firm license is limited to personal property only and if there is any live bidding they would need to hire a licensed auctioneer. If a firm license method is chosen then the person requiring the license must be an owner, officer or partner. Kelli Black commented that Arkansas is looking into making possible changes to the definition of Auction, to include on-line auctions. Sandy Edmonds said that their law already states that you must have an auctioneer license or a business license in order to do internet auctions. She added that they are struggling with the enforcement end of the law on this matter. Further discussion was held.
Next on the agenda was the matter of the lawsuit involving the Tennessee Board. Robert Hunter stated that the findings were not favorable to the Board but that they are appealing the decision and it is still in the courts at this time.
Selection of Seminar topic and presenter was discussed. The membership, on a motion from Lou Gonzaga and a second from Barry Gordon, voted to have Mike Brandly present the seminar he suggested which was ” 10 ways to reduce risk with auction sellers” and ” 10 ways to reduce risk with auction bidders and buyers”. All voted in favor. The seminar will be held on-site on Friday morning, July 21, 2023, from 8:30 – 10:30 a.m.
Discussion was held regarding whether to continue to have a NALLOA information booth at the July meetings of NALLOA at the NAA Conference & Show. After hearing the opinions of the members, a motion was made by Barry Gordon with a second from Gordon Greene to continue maintaining the information booth at the NAA Conference & shows each July. All voted in the affirmative. It was noted here that Secretary Schoen would not be able to attend this year’s Conference & Show being held in Oklahoma City and that therefore volunteers to sit in the booth were needed. It was decided that Secretary Schoen would send out a sign-up sheet for members to volunteer for 2 hour increments from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Wednesday and Thursday during the event.
Next item was whether to have the July NALLOA meeting on-site at the NAA Conference & Show or by Zoom. After much deliberation a motion was made by Barry Gordon with a second from Kelli Black to hold the meeting in the Zoom format. All present voted in favor. The decision as to the exact date will be made later and all will be notified.
The next item on the agenda added per a request from President Holleman. She wanted to know if any other state, other than South Carolina,, required auctioneers to use a CE tracking service, such as a CE broker to track CE for auditing purposes. Kelli Black stated that right now this is not an issue for Arkansas, but will consider it if it becomes necessary in the future. More discussion on this matter continued.
Vice-President Black asked for the next item to be included on the agenda, which was the matter of universal licensing. Kellie stated that this subject has been brought up in Arkansas a few times in the past 5 years or so. They are looking at barriers to entry in all of the occupational licensing programs. She was curious if any other states are bringing that up to their regulatory boards or if anyone has talked about it with any representatives or anything along those lines. Discussion on this followed.
The subject of any other matter needing to be discussed was brought up. President Holleman asked if other state boards were experiencing fewer persons applying for new licensure along with the number of auctioneer licensees and firm licensees declining. Donna McClain suggested that perhaps this is happening because more and more auctions are online now and don’t require a company to need as many auctioneers as before. Further discussion was held.
President Holleman asked if anyone had any topics they would like to see placed on the July agenda. There being no response, she said that our interim President, Kelli Black, and Secretary Schoen would work together on this matter.
Secretary Schoen thanked President Holleman on behalf of all NALLOA members for her past service and expressed to her what a positive asset she has been to the organization. President Holleman thanked the members for their kind words.
A motion was made by Robert Hunter that the meeting be adjourned. Jimmy Dean Coffey seconded the motion and all present voted in favor.
Respectfully submitted
Barbara Schoen, Executive Secretary
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